When are individual email notifications sent in this forum?
(1) By mxb on 2024-02-22 17:33:15 [link] [source]
After a long time of absence, I had made a new post in this forum.
When I went to logout afterwards, I configured email alerts for this account.
I basically entered an email address in the field that was empty at that time and unchecked a few boxes for events I was currently not interested in receiving notifications about.
However, I left check marks for "Announcements" and "Replies To My Posts" set and the delivery method to "Individual Emails".
Then I logged out.
Some time later - perhaps 2 hours, I returned to the forum and noticed, there was a reply to my post.
However, up to now, I have not noticed any email notifications in my inbox or my spam folder.
So I figured, either the email notifications are sent in a different way or schedule, then I thought, or email notifications are not working for me at the moment.
(2) By Richard Hipp (drh) on 2024-02-22 17:50:34 in reply to 1 [link] [source]
Checking the logs, I see that emails were sent to you, but were rejected by your hosting provider, GMX.
(3) By Richard Hipp (drh) on 2024-02-22 18:04:51 in reply to 2 [link] [source]
Further information:
GMX claims that messages to you were rejected due to invalid or missing DKIM signatures. https://postmaster.gmx.net/de/case?c=r0103&i=ip&v=45.33.6.223&r=1N1daa-1qxNsD44vg-00yDN6. But, similar messages were evaluated by GMail and Protonmail and found the DKIM signatures to be just fine:
Gmail:
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@sqlite.org header.s=mail header.b=P71xlQeN; spf=pass (google.com: domain of noreply35b34aa0e@fossil-scm.org designates 45.33.6.223 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=noreply35b34aa0e@fossil-scm.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=fossil-scm.org
Protonmail:
Authentication-Results: mail.protonmail.ch; dkim=pass (Good 1024 bit rsa-sha256 signature) header.d=sqlite.org header.a=rsa-sha256 Authentication-Results: mail.protonmail.ch; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=fossil-scm.org Authentication-Results: mail.protonmail.ch; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=fossil-scm.org Authentication-Results: mail.protonmail.ch; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=45.33.6.223 Authentication-Results: mail.protonmail.ch; dkim=pass (1024-bit key)
Methinks there is something wrong at GMX.
(4) By mxb on 2024-02-22 18:16:37 in reply to 2 [link] [source]
Checking the logs, I see that emails were sent to you, but were rejected by your hosting provider, GMX.
That is interesting/good to know.
I didn't know that could be happening.
GMX kind of always implied, it would not reject emails by it's own digression.
Hence the existence and use of a spam folder.
Also I was not informed about them doing that - except now from you.
Receiving emails from the fossil forum used to work in the past
and I do not think I have changed anything in my mailbox setup that should influence such things.
I remember another case, arguably more justified, when emails from another source did not arrive at that mailbox, that I would have wanted to arrive there - some time ago.
I consider finding another email provider, but this may perhaps not happen very soon.
If GMX does reject those emails, should I remove that address from the settings here?
(5) By mxb on 2024-02-22 18:18:54 in reply to 3 [link] [source]
Methinks there is something wrong at GMX.
I am afraid, you are right about that.
(6) By mxb on 2024-02-22 21:02:01 in reply to 4 [link] [source]
I have unchecked all topics for email notifications, that should make sure no further attempts to send email notifications should occur.
Perhaps that may contribute to calm down GMX ;)
- even if that is probably a very tiny contribution in that direction.
(7) By Andy Bradford (andybradford) on 2024-02-23 03:56:30 in reply to 4 [source]
> Also I was not informed about them doing that - except now from you. Most free email providers these days are not in the business of notifying their "customers" of emails that are being blocked. Also, regarding the last part of your observation... there are many who see the blocking happen but are powerless to do anything about it. Deliverability to Gmail has gone seriously downhill in the last year or two. How many Gmail "customers" actually know this? As long as they keep getting their emails from all of their contacts who are also using Gmail they are none the wiser. Only independent email systems are aware of the terrible state of email. > I remember another case, arguably more justified, when emails from > another source did not arrive at that mailbox, that I would have > wanted to arrive there It's a pretty sad state of affairs that email providers think they have the luxury of blocking email that you might find useful. And for what reason? They claim they are fighting *spam*, yet, when they block legitimate emails from sources that have never generated such *spam*, then one can only assume that there is some other agenda at work. Good luck finding a better provider. Andy
(8) By mxb on 2024-02-23 08:24:57 in reply to 7 [link] [source]
Most free email providers these days are not in the business of notifying their "customers" of emails that are being blocked.
GMX also did have payment schemes - I believe, they probably still have.
Therefore, I presume, they also have some users paying money to them.
If such payments would bring better mail delivery seem doubtful to me.
I did a little search for GMX rejecting emails yesterday.
I found some help pages with similar topics,
but them doing the blocking, appears to be a total "no mention"
- except for "user defined filters" perhaps.
They have that spam folder and daily spam reports, to try to make their "customers" believe,
they may still receive every email they wanted.
The contents of my spam folders these days always appears to be real spam.
Deliverability to Gmail has gone seriously downhill in the last year or two.
I never quite trusted Gmail, but I was not really aware of that.
Apparently it is better not to rely on emails these days.
Good luck finding a better provider.
Thank you Andy.